We are pleased to share the latest episode of X-Examination, in which Giles Stapleton sits down with his Ninth Floor Selborne Chambers colleague, Richard Gration, Barrister and Specialist Reserve Legal Officer with the Royal Australian Air Force. Their discussion explores how international law operates in practice, far beyond the headlines and public assumptions.

Key topics covered include AUKUS and Australia’s strategic posture, the workings of the UN Security Council, grey zone conflict, the ICC’s role in pursuing heads of state, and the day-to-day work of ADF lawyers. They also reflect on investigations such as the Brereton Report and how they unfold in practice.

This is the fourth episode of the podcast, following three earlier instalments. You can listen on YouTube or Spotify.